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Floppy Disk Compatibility: PC & Technics

[b]Help![/b] I'm posting this here and not in my keyboard's section (KN 6000) as I imagine it affects all KN series instruments which have a floppy disk drive. I am able to load the disks that came with my instrument and additionally some MIDIfiles I a…

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Floppy Disk Compatibility: PC & Technics

MrQwerty

MrQwerty
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Help! I'm posting this here and not in my keyboard's section (KN 6000) as I imagine it affects all KN series instruments which have a floppy disk drive.

I am able to load the disks that came with my instrument and additionally some MIDIfiles I already had on Double Density disks, however, my problem though is this. Any disk I format on the Technics can't be read by my PC (Windows 7) and vice versa: anything formated on the PC cannot be read by the Technics Drive (it always prompts to format).

As a result I cannot upload any new datafiles (styles, midifiles etc) because of this mismatch.

Is there a way to solve this dilemma?

Many thanks

PS: My PC will read the commercial Technics disks that came with the instrument - these are both High Density Disks.

Posted on May 1, 2015 at 11:02 PM
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admin

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Re: Floppy Disk Compatibility: PC & Technics

Hi MrQwerty,

I had this problem for many years. I have a KN7000 so I just stopped using the floppy drive. I also have a KN901 and when I started the sites I wanted to transfer files between KN901 and computer but found that I couldn't.

My PC would read disks I had purchased and the KN901 and KN700 would too. All three would format disks but those formatted on PC wouldn't read on the keyboards and vice versa.

My next step confused matters further. I bought a cheap USB floppy drive on Amazon and the problems were exactly the same. But I'm nothing if not persistent and I couldn't believe that the drives in my keyboards both had problems. The keyboards never failed to format, read or write to floppy disks but the PC would sometimes fail to write to the floppies. So, my hypothesis was that the two floppy drives I had for the PC were the ones with problems.

I purchased a more expensive floppy drive for my PC, having researched them carefully and this solved all my problems. I haven't had a single failure with formatting, reading or writing files between the PC and the two keyboards since.

This is not necessarily the same problem as mine but you can do some tests to try to find out.

Firstly, I think you have a KN5000 too? get a drive cleaning disk Run it over and over on your keyboard. I ran mine 40 or 50 times and it improved the situation but didn't fix it.

Next, can both of your keyboards format a disk and more importantly can they write files to the disks without any problems or errors?

Can the KN6000 read files that have been saved on the KN5000?

Can the PC write files to disks that it formats. Do you ever get delays or errors?

The USB drive I recommend is this one, it works perfectly for me and is compatible with my son's Apple Mac too, many aren't compatible with Macs.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00028MGS4/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&...


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00028MGS4/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&ca...

Let us know how your testing goes.
Mike

Posted on May 2, 2015 at 4:28 AM

admin

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Re: Floppy Disk Compatibility: PC & Technics

PS cleaning disks are about £2.50 at Strawberry Music:

http://www.kn7000.com/product_detail.asp?ProdID=10956&SuppProd=KN60...

Posted on May 2, 2015 at 4:33 AM

theharys

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Re: Copying files from computer to floppy disk drive

Hi Mike,
I own a Technics KN7000 keyboard.
I'm having problems copying downloaded Styles Series Y2 from my computer to a recently purchased floppy disk drive.

COMPUTER: Apple Mac mini OS X version 10.8.5
EXTERNAL USB FLOPPY DISK DRIVE, (recommended by you) : Freecom 22767 (model FD-05 made in China)
FLOPPY DISK: Maxell MF2-HD (formatted on my KN7000 keyboard.)

Have downloaded Styles Series Y2 to my computer OK but then copying individual files (20) to the floppy disk is just not happening when I right click the mouse.
As I'm fairly new to all this, I would be grateful if you could walk me through the process or any relevant suggestions.
Many thanks.
Harry

Posted on May 20, 2015 at 9:17 AM

admin

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Re: Floppy Disk Compatibility: PC & Technics

Hi Harry,

I've had a chat with my son Alex who is the Mac person around here smiling so this is relayed info.

In the Finder window, go to where you can see the individual files in the right part of the window. Drag the files from the right part of the window onto the floppy drive which will be in the left part of the window. This will copy the files to the floppy drive.

Let us know if that is what you needed.

Best wishes,
Mike

Posted on May 20, 2015 at 7:16 PM

theharys

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Re: Floppy Disk Compatibility: Mac & Technics

Hi Mike
Thanks for your prompt reply and info from Alex - most appreciated.

Yes, the magic Mac 'CLICK & DRAG ' routine worked a treat!!

For the benefit of Mac users, will detail the procedure:

The floppy disk drive was running with desktop image of a floppy disk mounted on the screen.
It was a simple job to highlight the downloaded file, click on it, then holding down the mouse button, drag it across to the image.
You hovered the cross above the image, clicked again to dump the file and hey presto, it was done !!
This action was repeated 3x20 = 60 times which gave us a total of 20 styles.
Many thanks again,
Harry

Posted on May 21, 2015 at 11:31 AM

mrqwertyalso

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Sorry for the long delay - after some testing - no real progress.

Hi Mike, I wanted to apologise for not coming back and responding with my findings any sooner. The truth is, I have made little positive progress with my floppy drives. The drive on the KN6000 did allow me to read a couple of DD Disks and load a couple MIDI files I'd created elsewhere, but shortly after a little use, refuses to work at all. In fact the green 'ON' light remains lit at all times, but actually fails to read anything: it simply prompts to format. My mac will read the two supplied disks that came with the KN 6000. I have saved the data to a Mac formatted HD for possible transfer in the future

I own a couple of good quality USB floppy drives made by NEC, but they too seem very inconsistent in reading my own created floppies. They will read the two commercial disks that came with the KN 6000 (the KN 5000 came without commercial disks). I can only conclude that my own floppies have corrupted or deteriorated over the years, as to become unreadable - could this be likely?

I'm thinking that upgrading to a Gotek USB Floppy emulator is my only solution? Incidentally, is there any point in buying a USB memory stick any larger that say 128MB, given that around 100 floppies should cover most eventualities?

BTW - I'd forgotten my original password, but no matter how many times I tried your routine to generate new credentials, no email ever arrived, so I had to resort to creating another user - hence my new MrQwertyAlso moniker.

Posted on March 29, 2016 at 10:25 AM