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Hi every one I am a newcomer to this site only discovered it a couple of months back. I have been playing my KN 6000 for a few years now, but would like to know if any one can tell me how to hook up a small synth through midi to the KN6000. dose the chann…

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Robin20

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Hi every one I am a newcomer to this site only discovered it a couple of months back. I have been playing my KN 6000 for a few years now, but would like to know if any one can tell me how to hook up a small synth through midi to the KN6000. dose the channel set up have to be the same for each keyboard? I can get it to work to some degree but am having a job getting my head round the basic idea of it !! any help to get me on the right path would be great......thanks,
Robin20

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Posted on October 25, 2016 at 5:39 PM
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RMepstead

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Re: Midi

Hi Robin
I have tried recently to do something similar with my KN7000, linking it to a Korg keyboard; but I mentally chucked the towel in in the end as the process seems extremely complex.
What I've done in the end was just to link the two sound systems together and play the Korg with the sound coming out through the KN7000.

Posted on October 28, 2016 at 4:40 PM

Robin20

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Re: Midi

HI Rmepstead thanks for dropping me a line. I have the set up you have mentioned in place at the moment as the synth has no on board speakers. I just thought that if I could midi the two keyboards up I could maybe layer a synth sound on top of a KN sound. but as you are saying it is a bit complex to set up. will plod away for the time being and see if I can sort it. Many thanks for your help..........regards....Robin20

Posted on October 30, 2016 at 6:33 PM

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Re: Midi

Robin20,

The principles are:

Connect the MIDi OUT from your KN6000 to the MIDI IN on your synth.

In most cases, especially with a synth, this will just work (but will need a bit of tweaking). As you have no speakers on the synth it will have to connect to the audio in of the KN6000 of course.

If it doesn't work straight away, in the KN6000 Midi Settings, set your KN6000 as the Master.

The other settings will let you choose which Part on the KN6000 sends Midi to which channel on the synth. You can also decide whether Local is on or off. Local means the sound inside the KN6000. So, for example, you could set Right 2 to be sending on a particular channel (that your synth receives) and then turn Local off, so that you don't hear the KN6000 Right 2 at the same time as the synth.

Unfortunately that's all I have time to write for now. Things have been very busy in my day job recently which is always the case in the summer. Over the winter I'll be writing extensively about Midi. It does take a lot of time to write documentation because everything has to be double-checked. If you can let us know what synth you have it will make things easier.

Roger,

I'm really interested in that little Korg of yours, the Styles sound great. I'd like to see whether the Styles could be converted to Technics via MIDI. I'll be passing you a few times in November so I'm wondering whether I could borrow it to see what I could do... and also to perfect and document that MIDI setup you're looking for. What do you think? I could lend you one of my keyboards to have a play with at the same time if you like. I have a Korg Microkey Air 61, Casio CTK 7000 and most Technics models. I'm next passing you Thursday, Friday and Sunday if you're interested.

Best wishes,
Mike

Posted on October 30, 2016 at 7:09 PM

RMepstead

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Re: Midi

Hi Mike. What a great offer on your part and thursday would make sense. However let me first explain exactly what I am doing.
The Korg Liverpool has many great Beatles style files but some that I have collected over the years for my KN7000 are better...so what I am doing is playing a mix of Beatles songs using either keyboard dependant on which one has the best style for each song. Currently I cover 62 Beatles songs almost exactly half using the Korg rhythms/style files and the other half using the KN7000 rhythms/style files.
I play them in a particular order which means that I am regularly swapping between the Korg and the KN7000.
If it is going to be technologically possible to instantly swap between playing the KN7000 direct and playing the Korg styles on the KN7000 then by all means pop by.
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Posted on October 31, 2016 at 2:42 PM

Robin20

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Re: Midi

Hi Mike thank you for picking up on my midi problem, I think I have now got it sorted have set my KN to master and set my send and receive channels up to talk to each

other so to speak, I now have a better idea about the "local" on off set up, thank you once again for your info, it was a great help............Regards Robin20

Ps I have a casio xw p1 synth.

Posted on November 2, 2016 at 8:05 PM

davetutt

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Re: Midi

Ahhhh MIDI! So many people have trouble with this! What with expecting sound to go down the MIDI cable (its digital control data only) and not understanding the difference between in and out at both ends of the cable and how that relates to which keyboard you have to play it can all get very complex. This is further confused by the fact that each communication between the keyboards has an address which has to match so if you are sending on MIDI channel 4 on the keyboard you are playing the keyboard you want to hear the sound from has to have channel 4 as an input enabled else there will be no sound!

Keyboards with split points, left and right hand sound selection, tone layering etc can, depending on keyboard, all have their own MIDI channel (or address) so this gets more and more of a challenge.

Most keyboards accept MIDI input on channel 1 that plays the default sound so if your external keyboard is set to transmit on this channel and the MIDI cable is plugged in the out from the remote keyboard and the in on the destination keyboard it should work nicely. Beyond that you would have to work through the manuals of both keyboards to tie up the channel settings on both.

The default settings of all keyboard also sends the voice selection details down MIDI so if the keyboard you are playing is changed from say organ to piano then the destination keyboard will change to piano too. Another function you would have to turn off within the software of the keyboards if you didn't want that to occur!

You can perhaps see why many professional musicians using multiple keyboards all interlinked by MIDI use custom engineered master keyboards to do all the switching for them rather than trying to figure it out on stage with 30,000 people in the audience!

Posted on November 25, 2016 at 7:58 PM

RMepstead

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Re: Midi

Not sure i've got the patience Dave but many thanks for your comments.
Roger M

Posted on November 26, 2016 at 5:35 PM

Robin20

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Re: Midi

Hi Dave. many thanks for more info on midi set up I have just about got there now, has been a bit of a learning curve, for an oldie like myself, but all the help from you guys
has helped a lot.Many thanks to all.........Regards Robin20

Posted on November 28, 2016 at 3:37 PM