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Re: Connecting KN5000 to Computer (midi)
Ah Yes. Styles Series Y2 for KN7000 has a different structure. That's for people who want to prepare their folder structure in advance for Styles that will come later.
Posted on January 12, 2016 at 5:39 AM
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Re: Connecting KN5000 to Computer (midi)
I see now why I downloaded that pdf.
If you go to:http://members.technicskeyboards.com/instruments/ga3-ga1/ga3-ga1-y2... and go to download
List of Styles
PDF File - listing the Styles for printing or reference - FULL LIST....this is list for the KN7000 not GA3
Sorry, kind of changed train tracks on you from Kn5000 to GA3. 
Posted on January 12, 2016 at 5:43 AM
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The full list shows you what will come later. I've only converted 3 folders for each model, nobody has the full list as I haven't finished them.... and I don't do a list for each model (even if it says KN7000) unless there is some difference between the styles for each model. Not enough hours in the day 
Posted on January 12, 2016 at 5:47 AM
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PS thank you for using the forum. Emails on these sorts of topics are impossible to keep track of and using the forum increases visibility to search engines as well as (more importantly) helping other people who need the same assistance.
Cheers,
Mike
Posted on January 12, 2016 at 5:50 AM
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I CAN...appreciate that 
I'll work on that audio cable and will get back with you when I have one.
Thanks Mike
Posted on January 12, 2016 at 5:50 AM
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No problem at all. Will be a good reference for when I connect the GA3 to midi down the road.
Posted on January 12, 2016 at 5:52 AM
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This should be what you need:
SPLIT AUDIO CABLE - PC TO KN5000
Posted on January 12, 2016 at 5:54 AM
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Ok..THANKS!
Found one here as well:
http://www.amazon.com/kenable-PULSE-Shielded-Stereo-6-35mm/dp/B004U...
I'll see if our local Best Buy electronic store carries it first. If not, I'll order it.
That's HUGE HELP Mike!
Thanks
Posted on January 12, 2016 at 7:51 AM
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Mike-
Just ordered this morning. Should be here by the 22 or 23.
We'll go from there when I have it.
Thanks so much for everything!
Dennis
Posted on January 13, 2016 at 3:50 PM
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Mike-
Right now, just running sound through computer speakers. For some strange reason in Miditzer 260SP and 216, I push any key and it just stays sustained and then freezes up.
Thinking maybe..it was just program but, no. I've tried running Kontact 5, (though not knowing what I'm doing there) I had it happen once on there as well and also, had it occur on the KN5000 once.
I'm about ready to give up here on the Kn5000.
Posted on January 17, 2016 at 9:34 PM
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HI Dennis,
I won't have much time to give you extensive help until later in the week but here are a few things:
As you are playing FROM KN5000 TO Computer then you don't need MIDI to be connected in the other direction. So unplug the MIDI IN from KN5000. This will eliminate any potential feedback loop for now. So, KN5000 will control Miditzer but Miditzer doesn't need any connection back to KN5000.
Secondly, review this article and look for the info about ASIO4ALL. This reduces latency. The article is relevant in respect of ASIO4ALL and latency.
http://kn7000.co.uk/kn7000-articles/kn7000-software-windows-81/...
Be absolutely certain that you are only running one midi program at a time.
ASIO4ALL will literally lock you to using one midi program at a time anyway. If you run two programs at the same time none of this is going to work.
I suffered from the same problems as you and the only fix was a good midi interface.
Best wishes,
Mike
Posted on January 17, 2016 at 9:47 PM
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Can do! Appreciate it. I'm just too use to plugging something in and expecting things to work and play
Posted on January 17, 2016 at 9:52 PM
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Mike-
Ooooooooooooooooook. This is really sucking the fun out of things.I've followed what you said. I even played around with that AOSI4ALL program and that REALLY screwed with things. I tried it with the Best Service Engine even..nothing is working right.
Do you suppose this MIDI cord is not the proper one for the KN5000? 
Posted on January 18, 2016 at 12:24 AM
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I'm not saying it is necessarily your midi interface but I tried several over the years and nothing worked right for me until I got the Roland interface. I blamed everything else and tried to avoid spending the extra on it, same as everyone else, but that sorted my problems. When I've tried to help other people with this it has usually (not always) failed until they get a good interface such as Yamaha or Roland but that is not to say that this is your interface being the issue. You can see quite a few threads in the forums where I've tried to help with similar problems.
But. All of this is pretty complicated, it varies for each person, keyboard, computer, interface and virtual instrument. I spent years trying to get things working well and getting the right interface was the key to it for me. Beyond that it still takes a lot of persistence and could be any number of other things.
I don't know what Best Service Engine is.
I'll try to write more about ASIO4ALL later in the week and to help you troubleshoot. Make sure you keep notes of things that work for you and if you need very specific help with other things like ASIO4ALL or Miditzer you'll probably need to get involved in their forums too.
My settings for ASIO4ALL in the article will be different to yours as I'm using the KN7000 USB interface. Though I have also used it with the Roland interface too.
Posted on January 18, 2016 at 12:38 AM
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Some USB ports have more power than others. Ones with high power have a lightning bolt next to them. Often using that port is better for an interface because they are all powered through the USB port. Also, you can connect using a powered USB hub to give the same additional power as an option.
Midi is passing a lot of data through the interface. Computers are not geared up for real-time (unlike the operating systems of keyboards) so these things have to be running at peak efficiency to avoid delays and errors.
Posted on January 18, 2016 at 12:41 AM
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Here is the link for The Best Service Engine. It's similar to Kontakt (Native Instruments) and others:
http://www.bestservice.de/en
That midi connector was $64. US dollars. (more than the Roland I think) Considering taking it back, if I'm able. I'll look into Roland or Yamaha.
I see all these great products for midi and cool these would be to use. But, it certainly kills the mood when things are not cooperating. It's too bad more people don't get involved on here. I feel like, I'm getting to be a bother asking all the things I have. I'm just not technologically minded when it come to MIDI. Other things I can play around with and figure them out. Not this sadly.
Posted on January 18, 2016 at 2:19 AM
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Mike-
Do you know if there are any similar issues with the organs as far as midi cables go? Didn't know if I should keep the one I have for the organ downstairs or if people have ran into the same problem.
Posted on January 21, 2016 at 6:00 PM
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I would expect to have the same issue with any type and brand of instrument. But it's worth a shot.
Posted on January 21, 2016 at 7:08 PM
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Hey Mike-
SO...the local business owner is refusing to refund my money because it was a special item order which, I think is VERY BAD business considering I HAD ZERO idea any of this was going to happen nor did I have any foreknowledge about the Technics brand issues with MIDI! By the way you know the sound cable you had me order, which came today by the way, from your end of the "Pond" through France..lol, this business owner of audio/visual equipment, was going to charge me triple to "make one". I HAD TO laugh out loud. No way in bloody hell as you guys say! So, right now, MIDI is pretty much a useless idea and I pick up a Conn 650 this week or next. Eventually will have it partially upgraded to MIDI and hopefully Miditizer, Kontakt and others will work through there. I'm really tempted to sell the KN5000. The business owner won't work with me and frankly, with a third organ coming, I..don't know. Just extremely discouraged here. You've done everything you know how to do, to help and guide me. It has greatly been appreciated...especially with the organ too (That still scared the hell out of me. Haha)
Take care Mike and I'm sure I'll have other questions on the GA3 down the road.
Dennis
Posted on February 2, 2016 at 5:16 AM
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Hi Dennis,
There aren't any brand issues with Technics midi. On more complex instruments there is more midi data being sent, which requires in a perfect world a good midi interface, pristine-clean high quality connectors, good, smooth power and well-set-up software on an optimised computer. The further away from that scenario we get, the more problems we'll encounter. In respect of that, nothing we discussed is specific to Technics and other brands are exactly the same, you can see this from some quick Google and Youtube searches where you'll find people struggling with the same issues on all brands. Organs are usually more simple than keyboards with less features and less commends being sent and received via midi so you'll probably have better results more easily there.
A big thing I've learned over the years is to use the highest quality accessories that I can and do a lot of research into them. You have great quality instruments and there's a good reason that the accessories for them vary widely in price, the higher investment in good accessories will pay dividends.
I hope all goes smoothly.
Best wishes,
Mike
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